Every since I got V+ I manage to record a mass amount of tv but never have the time to watch it all. What this mean is that I have to delete unwatched stuff to make way for new programs. Now it has a dvd recorder function but this would mean I have to go out and buy one plus you can't edit the program so you still get the adverts which seems pointless. You can also put onto vhs but don't think I need to say anymore on the cons of that format. So now that I have my upgraded pc running I thing ill go with some sort of capture device for that and see how it goes.